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25-02-05

89 - “La ilaha illa Allah, Mohammadour rasoulou Allah” but what if I'm gay?


("There is no other God than Allah and Muhammad is his messenger")
We knew already about women and Islam. Ask Hirsi Ali. ("Je suis pour le port du voile. Je suis contre les femmes qui travaillent.").
Now about some gay stuff. Gay but not gay at all.

In the infidel West, sexual orientation is not a big deal any more. Who cares whether you like Brussels sprouts or brocolli anyway. Not so in Islam. And they should. After all, it's good for the ecology to have some gays in Allah's heaven. The righteous Muslim men will be assigned at least 7 fresh virgins (hur) there. Did they ever think about supply and demand, the heavenly demography, the scarcity of girls? Anyway, let's enjoy the Islam views on homosexuality.

The site is not the least. It's IslamOnline, so not just another obscure Imman. "All Fatwas published on this website (Islamonline.net) represent the juristic views and opinions of eminent scholars and Muftis."
From "Islam's Stance on Homosexual Organizations":


Question:
I do not know whether you’ve heard about an announcement of establishing a sexually stray organization consisting of gays and lesbians who claim affiliation to Islam. Its ideas are disseminated and promoted by means of their site on the World Wide Web.
Some of the affiliates and sustainers of this organization allege that there is no proof in the Qur’an that forbids this sort of sexual conduct and that those who engage in such activities are excused because this issue is dependent on the genetic make-up of humans. Furthermore, they engage in these activities with mutual consent of both parties without any coercion or harm. They argue that some other religions have permitted their followers (who have this orientation) to establish places of worship specifically for themselves.
What is the position of Islam on this conduct? And what is Shari’ah verdict on this affair? Benefit us, may Allah have mercy on you.


Answer:
Wa `Alaykum As-Salaam Waramatullah Wabarakatuh!
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
All thanks and praise are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

(let's cut the usual crap)
As for your question, it should be clear that homosexuality is sinful and shameful. In Islamic terminology it is called 'Al-Fahsha' or an atrocious and obscene act. Islam teaches that believers should neither do the obscene acts, nor in any way indulge in their propagation. Allah says, "Those who love (to see) obscenity published broadcast [VH: does he mean porn websites?] among the Believers will have a grievous Penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: Allah knows, and you know not." (Al-Nur: 19)

Dr. Taha Jaber Al-`Alwani, President of the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences and President of the Fiqh Council, [VH: faint!] states:
The scholars of this Ummah are in agreement and have reached consensus [VH: don't be too sure, read here] - based on what has been revealed in the Qur’an and what has been authenticated in the Prophetic Tradition (Sunnah)- on prohibiting both behaviors (gayness and lesbianism) because in each of two actions there is an assault on the humanity of a person, destruction of the family and a clash with aims of the Lawgiver, one of which is the establishment of sexual instincts between males and females so as to encourage the institution of marriage.

So, viewing (material) desires as aims in themselves is a deviation from one’s natural disposition and a departure from the natural order. If the trend in the West is to legalize this conduct, it should be noted that such things did not materialize until after religious values had been diluted and had been changed to relative values that glorify individuality and make pleasures as an end and aim.

Furthermore the confusion about the concept of the Hereafter and other issues gives rise to confusion about sexuality and hence the occurrence of this anarchy; From here covetousness and greed arose to push for the establishment of numerous industries built for the purpose of stirring up passions such as sexual tourism, the making of lewd films, the promotion of sexually gratifying instruments (VH: does he mean "dildo"?) and other things. The result is the destructions of the concept of family and its values and confusion arose about appropriate kinds of relationships between males and females to the point that we see families being formed from two males or two females. [VH: the guy *must* be a member of the Vlaams Belang].

In Hadith, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, clarifies the gravity of this abomination by saying: “Allah curses the one who does the actions of the people of Lut” repeating it three times; and he said in another Hadith: “ If a man comes upon a man then they are both adulterers

Here, he considered homosexuality tantamount to adultery in relation to the Shari’ah punishments because it is an abomination on the one hand and the definition of adultery applies to it on the other hand. It has also been narrated from the Companions (may Allah be pleased with them) that this crime deserves severe punishment more than that of adultery to insure its deterrence and restraint. Verily, the punishment here is the burning of both homosexuals (the actor and acted upon) or stoning them with rocks till death because Allah Most High stoned the people of Lut after demolishing their village.

As for lesbians, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said about them: "If a woman comes upon a woman, they are both Adulteresses”. The scholars mentioned that it is incumbent on the authority to enact a reprimand on lesbians that is fitting to the crime committed.


You can also read:
How to Give Up Homosexuality
Homosexuality and Lesbianism: Sexual Perversions
Homosexuality: The Nature of Perversion

Allah Almighty knows best. [VH: Father too]


Some more uplifting Islam teachings can be found here.

He [Allah] also made it clear that marriage is done between a male and a female only. No same sex marriage even for those Muslims who commit major sins, such as fornication or adultery. See Noble Verses 24:3-5.
"For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: Ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds. (The Noble Quran, 7:81)"
"Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant! (The Noble Quran, 27:55)"
(More on the site).


Disclaimer
Normally there should be a disclaimer here. How the Christians did the same 500 years ago, the Crusades, burnt deviant "witches". How noble and enlighted Islam was in the Middle Ages, they kept the ancient Greek writings, they invented Algebra, they built the Alhambra in Granada, Spain, - while we were roasting Jeanne d'Arc on the BBQ.
And then the usual tolerance and antiracist crap of course. Not to mention that we shouldn't insult Islam. Ask Van Gogh or Salman Rushdie why.
Well what the heck? This is a free society, with free speech. We can insult and mock the Pope, we can insult and ridicule Jesus (The life of Brian, Monty Python).
Why not Islam? Its fake Qu'ran, its pedophile prophet Muhammad (he surely enjoyed f*cking the 9-year old Aisha when he was almost senile, his Viagra be praised). Isn't that a sexual perverversion (peace be upon him)?
What makes Islam and its backwards, discriminatory, obscurant teachings so special and immune in the West for satire and questioning?

Golshan (what a yucky site design) prologue:
"Islam is a religion of peace." This is what our politically-correct politicians tell us. The truth is that Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a religion of hate, terror and war--intolerance, inequality, violence, discrimination, superstition, fanaticism, and blind faith. Islam advocates killing non-Muslims, abuses the rights of minorities and women. Islam has expanded through Jihad (holy war) and the killing of nonbelievers and dissidents. Apostasy in Islam is the most serious crime, punishable by death. Muhammad was himself a fundamentalist, therefore fundamentalism cannot be separated from true Islam. Islam, which means "submission," demands its followers to submit their wills and thoughts to Muhammad and Allah, a deity that despises reason, democracy, freedom of thought and freedom of expression.

Allahû akbar, Allahû akbar You bet.


Links:
Islam's Stance on Homosexual Organizations
Allah washes whiter than Jahweh (in French, en français)
Convert to Islam and get a free B-Shirt (in French, en français)
You started it!
After all, women can't drive.
Peaceful and tolerant Islam. Yeah, right.
Will the real Qu'ran please stand up, please stand up?
Never underestimate the power of denial.
But there is hope: Merhaba (in Dutch and French)

Photo: (click to enlarge) The Kaaba in Mecca, with a special redecoration.

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